Sultans Of Ping Forum Index Sultans Of Ping
New forum for the band Sultans of Ping.
Please register and post so this becomes as popular as the old one.
Hosted by ping.fishtank.org.uk.
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

fair trade?

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Sultans Of Ping Forum Index -> Everything Else
View previous topic :: View next topic  

fair trade
bollocks
37%
 37%  [ 3 ]
absolutly brilliant
62%
 62%  [ 5 ]
Total Votes : 8

Author Message
arunciblespoon
Teenage Punk


Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Posts: 695
Location: under a car

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:54 pm    Post subject: fair trade? Reply with quote

they recon fair trade certified stuff doesnt exploit their workforce


what a load of guff, all employers exploit their workforces, its how capitalism works.

i think this is part of the ' i must care about something' brigade, like animal rights nonsence and the ninnies who whitter about cars and pollution
_________________
sultans of shite, more like
Big landies nnnand cats arses.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Kelly
Moderator


Joined: 31 Jan 2006
Posts: 2486
Location: Manchester

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All trade exploits to a certain extent, but this is better than most. It should prob be called fairer trade. I think it's good. People are given fairer prices for things they could be exploited into producing far more cheaply.
Animals do have rights. I'm not a ninny.
_________________
Obsessional since 1992
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
arunciblespoon
Teenage Punk


Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Posts: 695
Location: under a car

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) all trade does not exploit,
non exploitative trade is where the worker gets paid the exact amount of value he added to the product.
Marx's work explains this quite well.
2) No they dont, a right is something that has had to specifficaly allowed to stop the state from controlling the populous, this is why there is no such thing as a Human Right, Don't get me wrong, i hate people who abuse animals, but they do not have rights.
3) maybe i was a little unclear about my position, never mind.
_________________
sultans of shite, more like
Big landies nnnand cats arses.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Kelly
Moderator


Joined: 31 Jan 2006
Posts: 2486
Location: Manchester

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright but animals as living creatures deserve to be treated with respect and not abused, although I don't denounce all animal testing. I was calling this a right rather than the correct definition that you have provided.
How can the axact amount of value added to a product be calculated?
_________________
Obsessional since 1992
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
arunciblespoon
Teenage Punk


Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Posts: 695
Location: under a car

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in the most simple terms, the
sale value-cost of components

ie, for a weaver
this would be slle price - (cost of machinery/(units produced+maintenance costs)+yarn)

along with other qualifying factors, like wharehousing etc

i'm not pretending its simple, and to expalin all possibilities would be rather tediuos and consuming,

for more on this subject, try reading (condensed editions of) Capital, by Marx and Engels
_________________
sultans of shite, more like
Big landies nnnand cats arses.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
hairy vince
Teenage Punk


Joined: 01 Feb 2006
Posts: 639
Location: Chatham

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fairtrade Fortnight just finished!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Sultans Of Ping Forum Index -> Everything Else All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group